Thursday, January 31, 2013

Discord Came to Discord's Domain

(Pixelkitties is awesome)

So early this morning I received word from Mike Brockhoff that John De Lancie could join us for a quick interview and discussion about "Bronies", the documentary. Just a few hours later I had a working livestream channel, and Discord's Domain had coordinated with BabbleWithBronies and Bronystate to do some backup livestreams as well. Not even a full day later, the interview is done. Quite short-notice, but it ended well. Read on after the page break!


It's worth mentioning that unlike the documentary it discusses, there's no good reason this interview can't be all over youtube. Here, take a copy: the things De Lancie mentions here really should be heard.

For those short on time, here are a few of the most important points:
(not all of them, so you might as well watch at some point anyway).
  1. The documentary is meant to inform people in general about the brony community, not only to entertain bronies.
  2. The uploads of the documentary on youtube really are causing harm, preventing the documentary from really finding the general audience it was more-or-less intended to find.
  3. In the world of documentaries, to have a documentary fully made in just six months is actually really impressive. (I wonder if any of the people on the technical side would be willing to enlighten us about how they did it)
Thanks to Mike Brockhoff, for letting me know about this opportunity. Thanks to the folks at Bronystate for lending a helping hand, Thanks very much to Elliott from BabbleWithBronies and all his interviewing experience/expertise, and thanks most of all to John De Lancie. Whom is a very busy man, yet still set aside the time to do this with us. I wanted to give him a 3D printed Twilight Sparkle for all his trouble, courtesy of The CollabLab (WPI's up-and-coming makerspace) but before I could mention it to him he was already off to his next order of business... Oh well, I'll get it to him if I can, and if he would like it. I do hope he gets an occasional respite from that busy schedule of his.

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Seriously?! People are posting the documentary on Youtube?! ****ing inconsiderate jackasses! Even after it was made clear that it would ruin the documentary's standing with anyone outside the fandom? *Muffin Rage! *(a terrifying image, I know) We should boycott those videos and burn the ones responsable! They're probably not even bronies.
16 replies · active 633 weeks ago
InB4 it's all the trolls posting it just because John said not to.
I thought that was already a given...
As far as YouTube uploads go, I think the YT uploads are only private or unlisted, so it's not like someone could find it by using the YouTube search bar. You have to lurk around in /mlp/ (and similar places) at just the right times to even find a YouTube link, at which point the "good guy" lurkers (like me), if they find a link, show it to the director or producer of the film. I really don't think these sorts of "secret" YT uploads of the film should be of concern to them, because they're so hard to find under normal circumstances, which is what big-name official distributors will be noticing and looking at. And the majority of people in this world don't use torrent services (myself included). They're too complicated to figure out how to use, for most people, and they're nearly impossible to police or control.

In other words, I'd say official distribution of the film is in good hands.
I'd have to disagree Torrents aren't that difficult to use once you realize you need a separate client. I've torrented a few things in my day (though recently they've all been legal or at least ethical, such as a game from the Humble Bundle 5 that I paid for, a replacement for a corrupted file for Arma 2 and a version of DayZ which wasn't in Six Launcher yet. Unfortunately UNT has a strict policy against piracy and the way they track it is through torrents, despite the fact that there arr plenty of other ways to get fules illegally such as direct downloads from RapidShare and the fact that torrents are not inherently illegal, just popular for pirates. And the penalty if you dare use a certain file format? They disconnect your internet and make you pay $100 to have some specialist format your drive, important, irreplaceable files be damned. Plus the people in charge of tech stuff are technological retarded (as evidenced by the UNT website being coded almost entirely in malformed javascript and them forcing us to use other, external websites that are also poorly designed) and probably wouldn't know or care the difference between a legal torrent and an illegal one. Though I could probably just spoof myself a brand new MAC address since that's how they track these sorts of things.) But, I digress.

I also disagree about the youtube links. I find it quite a common practice for people to essentially upload "Link' videos, such as this guy who uploads LPS episodes (which I am amazed I have still kept up with) as unlisted, then adds links to them in his (public) link video as an annotation. I've also seen this practice with pony episodes. I've also found people who upload pony episodes unlisted and then post a big block of links to some external site. If someone wanted to find the documentary on Youtube, they absolutely could.
Let me emphasize again: The average person wouldn't be able to find the documentary on YouTube or torrent sites. And despite what you say, there are still lots of people who either don't know what a torrent is, or they don't want to bother with one. For LPS episodes, there's an easy list here. For MLP, one was once able to use this site, but Hasbro has zapped the episodes they used and they haven't updated the embedded videos link.

Did you misspell are as "arr" on purpose because you referenced pirates in the same sentence? What is this certain file format? By "UNT" do you mean University of North Texas? Their website looks similar to the construction of my schools' websites, SFSU (current) and DVC (past). Oh, and you said "fules" when you meant "files".

In conclusion, I still am convinced that the Bronies documentary crew doesn't have too much to worry about when it comes to film festival owners and professional distribution companies looking to see if the film is on YouTube already.
#1 I actually just go to that guy's channel for the LPS eps. He's just the best at it, getting us no watermark 1080p and all. As for the websites, I was more referring to the my.unt.edu site, and the now abandoned Blackboard Vista was similarly bad. On My UN/T all links are in javascript, meaning you can't middle click them to open in a new tab, and sometimes they flat out refuse to work. Also I sometimes get cockblocked by the "EIS System" which asks for a login, but only site admins have one. As for the typos, I wrote that comment on mobile, so I'm amazed there weren't MORE spelling errors.
Just at a glance, that does look like a poorly made site. I mean, they even say this:

"Most Web browsers can access myUNT with the proper settings. For best results, use a supported browser and version:
Internet Explorer 8 and
Firefox 3.6, 3.5, 3, 2 and 1.
Safari 5, 4, 3 and 2.0.4 " -

I'm running the latest version of Firefox, which is 18.0.1 And Safari is on 6.0.2, according to Wikipedia! Internet Explorer, similarly, is on version 10 now! 9 and 10! Why is this website telling people to use outdated browsers? (And really outdated, as the case seems to be with Firefox? Also, may I ask how my schools' websites hold up to your standards? Those are the two colleges I go to, but I'm also now curious about my high school's website: http://www.srvhs.net/
The problem is they wrote that message back when those were the latest browsers, and haven't updated it since, nor have they updated anything technical about the site, just the content. I am also on Firefox 18.0.1 (just upgraded from Firefox 17 this morning due to trying to get the IRC to work). Also Chrome isn't even on that list, and I know Firefox 3.6 first came out three years ago. And I'd have to spend a considerable amount of time judging your school's websites, but they seem somewhat subpar just glancing at them, but not quite as bad. I'm confused as to why SFSU is pushed up to the top of the screen though.
Maybe because it was designed on a smaller monitor than ours. My laptop's screen is 1600x900, theirs was probably a 1024x768 screen.
Mine's 1920x1080. But theirs is still super wide. It's almost like it was designed for a dual-monitor 1366x768 or something.
No, it easily gets cut down if you resize your window. It's just like how this site has images of Discord on the side that aren't essential to the page viewing, because they're part of the background. So they can design the main aspects of a website for smaller screens, but then have larger, wider backgrounds in place in case people make their browser windows wider/longer.
Yes, but only if you size it down to exactly the size it's natively in. For me even in Wiindowed mode everything is pushed up to the top.
Well, what do you expect? For them to put extra space at the top, bumping everything down? Don't most websites have stuff right at the top?
Yes, but usually the page fills at least 2/3 of my screen...
I think I understand.
I just noticed that you left one of your parentheses unclosed.
It certainly was something else. There's no one quite like Mr. DeLancie, that's for sure.
WOW! This WAS last minute! XD

Edit: That ending was sooooooo awkward XD In an endearing way though, and thats a very nice Twi btw (where's the wings? lolol)! Kinda a shame the one thing I really wanted to know, concerning people less than thriled by the doc, was stunted but eh, what can you do.
When I first saw this post I thought of something else entirely. Also Mike are you going to upload this to youtube or are you gonna make it one of our responsibilities?
6 replies · active 634 weeks ago
I was going to cut out the rather inane part at the end, put it up in a google doc for anyone who wants a copy, and put it it on the Discord's Domain youtube page. You are free to get it up on youtube too, when I update this post with the downloadable version.

Unfortunately iMovie sucks and OS X Lion has a bug that won't let you trim video with Quicktime, so I was gonna take the file to the library today where I could use Windows Movie Maker. It'll take a little bit of time.
If you update it with the downloadable version I'd be more than happy to edit it for you. Linux has an editing program called Kdenlive (you have to download it, but it's free) that is MUCH better IMO than WMM, or any other editor I've used on Windows. I haven't used any of the expensive paid-for ones that you have to buy like Sony Vegas, but I've been using Kdenlive exclusively since August with only minor issues. In any case if you're just going to cut handles off I can tell you that it does a mighty fine job in that respect since that's one of the main things I do for my LPs.
Thanks! But I found an epic open-source program made by some Italians that works beautifully.
Oh cool. What's it called?
MPEG Streamclip. As it's name suggests it's kinda specialized for MPEG variants... I played around with making a few other file types and it kinda balloons the file size. But it keeps all the video and audio quality if it can. The nice thing is there's lots of good low-loss video file type converters out there, so the fact that the program's somewhat specialized isn't much of a problem.
At last.
2 replies · active 634 weeks ago
"...my love, has come along..."
"We bring you the fastest growing phenomenon bombing on stereos..."
Now on to Lauren Faust, or even *gasp* the president! Mike has ALL da connections!
Dude, I just ask. As my grandmother says, "There's no harm in asking."
You're welcome.

But I really must thank you too. Your experience with interviewing proved invaluable. You saved me from my awkwardness a couple times there.
Most of the time yes, but a couple of those times were just awkward pauses on my part.
Why can't I get the YouTube video URL from the embedded video? I'd like to add it to my "watch later" playlist, but I can't.
Also, has anyone tried seeing if the film's link to YouTube is on any sites so we can report it to the filmmakers?

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